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Spoilers for some story in Stray Gods I got nothing. We can talk on the stuff Looty was too busy to talk on. There were the Bruins, Junior missed his connection coming back from Japan and got stuck in Toronto (Mrs. McP is off to Logan now), it was …
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Again, Again!

Feminina O'Ladybrain

May 2

Spoilers for some story in Stray Gods

Butch:

I got nothing. We can talk on the stuff Looty was too busy to talk on. There were the Bruins, Junior missed his connection coming back from Japan and got stuck in Toronto (Mrs. McP is off to Logan now), it was a night.

Feminina:

He's probably still too busy, but we'll see.

I started another game, because why not. Noticed Calliope has a line when you first meet her – Grace says something like "it felt like the music was coming from inside me" and Calliope says "it always was" or something. Foreshadowing for why she picked Grace to be the muse, obviously, and a note that Grace has some special gift even beforehand.

Which echos what Apollo says later, that every time the muses met someone who created something amazing, they'd pass on their eidolon – so Calliope saw something amazing in Grace, despite the fact that Grace says the band is Freddie's project more than hers.

Grace is an artist in search of her art form, maybe. And it turns out to be inspiring other people?

When you think about it, I'm not sure turning a great artist into a muse for others is really a logical reward. It's almost more predatory than generous: "you invented a new art form, now I will seize your talents and cause you to stop creating and start encouraging others to create instead!"

Though generally we're told the passing on of the eidolon is done after training and agreement, so I suppose from a more positive standpoint it would be "I will extend your life so that you can spend more time inspiring others than you would have been able to spend creating your own work, and thereby play a larger role in the existence of art in the world than you would have."

But it does suggest that the muse' power, like Apollo's, has a price.

Loothound:

Possibly the only time I'll have to chime in today (and perhaps tomorrow)?

Isn't that the way of a lot of divine "gifts" in Greek mythology? The power comes with a price that makes it a lot less awesome. Cassandra (blessed by Apollo, no less) would have the gift of prophecy but would never be believed.

Butch:

Dang, dude, stop being so busy! That shit'll kill you.

There is a lot of curse stuff in mythology, yes. I pondered that when deciding to give the eidolon to Freddie. What made my decision, though, was Persephone saying she still remembers being Chastity (ha). Freddie will still be there.

Well, yes, they do say they pass the eidolon to someone who creates something amazing, but is that really Grace's music? OK, she sings well, but it isn't like she invented something truly novel. They were having tryouts for, what, a garage band. Maybe a band that plays bars or something. If that's your threshold for godhood, pretty low bar. She must've seen something else entirely.

When you say "Started a new game," you mean a playthrough of this or a whole new game?

Feminina:

Nah, this game. Maybe I'll get the "all songs" trophy!

And yeah, I also didn't think Grace's song was really all that, but Calliope must have heard something in it that we didn't. She came in saying "you have an amazing voice, I hope you know that," and then later after she 'auditioned,' she said "your song was so wonderful, I just had to finish it." So I thought it was an OK song but nothing astounding, but apparently Calliope did not agree.

And she is the muse.

That said, I think it's pretty clear from later story that she did not intend to give Grace her eidolon that very night, so likely she heard great potential rather than great presence right then.

Loothound:

Yes, Freddie will still be in there, but they talked a lot about how it gets blended in with the past versions. It'll change her, to be sure. Also, will she remember the trauma of Calliope getting stabbed?

Butch:

One thing I'm curious to see resolved, as you mention intent to give the eidolon, is Hecate mentioning that Caliope was supposed to die in a car wreck in eleven months. I hope that gets resolved. Was there intent there?

And fair point about the memories.  Aphrodite didn't get all happy, did she? 

Also, just looked at pictures Junior took in Tokyo. I have a new respect for Ghostwire. Pictures Junior took looked like screenshots.

Feminina:

I did read that they had basically recreated parts of Tokyo. Though if you can't tengu up to the rooftops, is it ever really going to be the same?

Butch:

Nope. They gotta work on them Tengu.

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