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On Being Americans

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Sep 25

There are things that make America different. Most of them were seeded in the bill of rights.

Some of it has to do with being a nation of immigrants (even if you have Ameridian ancestors, sorry, you are descended mostly from immigrants.)

The people who believe that to be or become Americans you have to be as blond as Hitler wished he could be are eluded. If being independent minded and for self-government were dependent on low pigmentation, the Scandinavian countries would be hot beds of individualism, instead of cultures that consider "enough" the highest praise, and who try to become a herd of faceless sheep. At least Germans would hold the torch of freedom throughout the centuries, right? And England wouldn't have become so cowed during and after WWII that they're almost gone as a culture now.

Now various people will adduce that these populations have been replaced. Not really. They've imported a lot of thirdworlders, but honestly that was after the socialist insanity started, not before. And despite what you see in their TV shows, the non-pale populations are still distinct and often holding themselves apart minorities. There's way more intermarriage in America, and even here well... go to any high school. Groups tend to gravitate like to like.

The theories of racial replacement before the 20th century are usually as credible as the DaVinci code conspiracies. I remember the crazy people who decided that Portugal's decline as a world power started because of miscegenation. As proof of this they held SELECTED royal portraits. In fact, the Portuguese royal family, as most royal families, were their own race to an extent, since they all married their cousins. But go far enough back, and look at the portrait of Henry the Navigator, whose mother was btw English, and whose father was a royal bastard. This was before the period of greatness, which to an extent, he instigated. The man could be dressed in modern clothes and disappear anywhere in Portugal. Or Greece. Or Italy. Heck, in the US he'd ping Latin on sight, and not one of the lighter ones.

So, you know? Nothing to do with melanin. While, yes, there are traits associated with certain populations, which traits can influence culture, it's not like that. It's not that clear cut. Each of us has the virtues of our vices. My tendency to go inside and imagine when I'm unhappy is what allows me to write novels. My tendency to get incredibly anxious about politics is why I keep this blog, because otherwise I'd probably shut down, in the fetal position.

IQ is a very bad measurement, partly because it can be manipulated. (And is.) I say this as someone who tests very high in IQ. (No, higher than that. But lower than my kids, so there's that.) And often is, by people trying to make a point. Most of the IQ of people in Africa you hear bandied about was from tests done by South Africa back when the government was for real white supremacist.

Also, even if you were to assume that IQ was a real measurement of aptitude (I invite you to go to a Mensa meeting and see how "successful" most people there are. And how LEFTIST. It will disabuse you.) for self-government, it, like height, health and a million other things are influenced by a million things, from early stimulation to nutrition. To, you know, not putting wine in the kid's bottle because you want him to sleep. Or not doing that too often. To, the kid not living in the kind of environment where he gets concussions on the regular, for instance. Trust me, in my childhood, those were disqualifiers for most of the population. And we were not a third world country. And the area I lived in was not poor or uneducated by comparison to most of the country. You have no idea how well off even the poor in America are.

So, why are Americans different? Why is our base culture and our base assumptions about the world different than most of the world's, and most of historic humanity's? For good and ill?

First, the bill of rights. In preserving both the right to free speech, and the right to arm oneself, as well as the base assumption that the state doesn't have omnipotent power over you, the culture was shaped. Most Americans recoil at the idea the government OWNS you. In the rest of the world it's at worst met with a shrug. Unless they're heavily influenced by us. Yes, a few on the left have lost that. But not really. They confess from the lips out that you might as well belong to the government. Until the government does things they don't like. And then they claim rebellion is patriotism. They're American and that's baked in so deep they can't eschew it.

Second, heredity. No, not racial heredity. That's not how any of this works. Most races Americans see aren't even races. (Latins are the Mediterranean sub-race, unless they're Amerindians. Latin is a commonality of culture with fuzzy borders. Parts of France and Ireland might as well be Portugal. The fact Americans look at frankly South American Amerinds and people like me and see one "race" is an effect of the government making "Latin" a thing, and people starting adding people to their mental category. OTOH most American "blacks" are, what do you call them? Oh, yeah, freaking Caucasians. Seriously. Until they tell you, you assume they're white. Because this country, under the left's influence have gone crazy for the one drop rule.) On the other hand individual traits are inheritable-ish. And they influence culture. (What they don't really have is any relation to skin color, in general.)

What do I mean by traits being inheritable? Well.... if you're blue eyed, depending on the other parent's heredity, there's a chance at least one of your kids will have blue eyes, right? (Might not be high. Four of my grandparents and six of my seven uncle/aunts were blue eyed. Mom is dark-green eyed. My husband's dad is blue eyed. I'm dark eyed, my husband is dark eyed, all our kids and siblings are dark eyed. Human heredity is hell o'complex even in this.)

Those of us who are naturally stubborn as all get out and have kids are aware that unfortunately it breeds true. Perhaps made worse when we're the kind who don't want a spouse we can just roll over. Technically it could keep increasing to infinity. (And yet sometimes such families throw a docile child. It's odd. They tend to get rolled over.)

And those who are born of curious parents tend to be curious. And--

Well, until the 20th century and airplanes, being a country of people who themselves or their ancestors had immigrated here has consequences.

I can't begin to explain how weird immigrating is. You leave everything and everyone you know behind. To an extent, you leave yourself behind. To acculturate -- which until the late 20th century was a cultural and often a legal requirement -- you had to leave yourself behind. To become something else. (Which involves at least if you're smarter than the average bear and aware becoming aware of the differences. Which is why I'm writing this.) Those of you who haven't done this, or haven't done this with the intention of becoming one of the country you moved to, literally can't picture this. You have no mental model.

The fact that it takes years even in the best circumstances, is the reason I'm against mass migration, and ghettoized one-nationality neighborhoods even if legal. It takes years. Even with you, yourself, trying to fit in, trying to change. I estimate it took me a good 15 years, and note I left my entire family and culture behind, self-consciously stayed away from even Portuguese books and language (save for the obligatory Saturday call to mom.) Am I completely integrated? Mostly. There are things I know are still "weird" but I don't know how much of that is being "Odd" and how much being born abroad. And I have the memory of being different, and how I changed, because some of it was conscious.

Thing is, my kids are American. They are not anything else. We had some vague idea of making them bilingual, but older son ignored any language not English, so we gave up. Younger son never even got that. They are WEIRD, but not for the community they grew up in, which was science fiction. There, they are perhaps too "normal."

People who come over in mass migrations and stay within their own culture are different. Partly because mass migration takes less effort, mentally and emotionally. And partly because acculturation, even when expected, could take three or four generations, and usually only happened when you started intermarrying.

But both my kids have, by inheritance or just growing up with us, a tendency to be "leave me alone" and "no, I don't want to rule you, but neither will I be ruled." Which runs in both families like an Olympian champion.

And that's the thing, to come over, to leave everything behind, and to stick it out you have to be of a certain frame of mind. Unless you're running from absolutely certain annihilation, which some people were through the centuries. If you're coming over because your country is uncomfortable and doesn't feel right? Yeah, you have certain traits. And those traits pass on.

A lot of the European migrations, in addition to coming at times of famine or whatever, came mostly from people willing to risk it all on a throw of the dice. And that's a type of mentality. And it passed on.

The vast majority of people in America take self government and self defense as their G-d given right. Which is why every time the left tries to clamp on gun ownership, we guy more guns (to take on canoe trips. Look, that's hereditary too, I guess.)

Yes, there are a lot of countries of immigrants. And we all have certain characteristics in common, but no other country has the bill of rights. And some countries define themselves by how nicely conforming they are, unlike that uncouth America. (Oh, Canada.)

I think it took both to shape us into who we are.

Americans are different. There is a different "texture" to society. Americans .... "every man a king" is a good way to put it. Or "I can do what I want provided I don't mess with you" or-- well, something like that. But it's more like Americans STAND. By themselves. (This means wealth and the automobile had effects here it didn't have anywhere else, and it's a mixed bag, but that's another post.)

It's hard to define unless you've lived abroad as something else. You don't know for instance how much more conforming students are in school abroad. How many things people assume other people have the right to do to them. Or the top down pressure of "your betters" which has gone from birth (sort of, a lot of Europe still is in awe of the "well born") to wealth.

The ridiculous trust for experts imported into America by FDR and maintained only by extreme leftist control (prospiracy, not conspiracy) of education and the press is NATURAL in Europe and other places. Or at least has been beaten into the culture for centuries.

And yes, cultures are real. Cultures might perhaps be more easily understood if you view them as communal sentient beings. They're very hard to change, and when you push them a way, they often go another. The only ways we know of changing culture involve taking the kids and raising them as something else. The degrees of violence involved vary.

If you put all this together, you'll start to get very alarmed about the erasure of our borders. And you should be, not going to argue. At the same time, it's not the apocalypse it might very well be for Europe.

Look, Europe has been worrying me for a long time. Before I came here. Was it part of the reason I came here? I don't know. It's hard to tell what the hell was in my mind back then. I first came over at eighteen, and was seduced by the creativity of the common person in America and the ability to be yourself outside of a socially rigid culture. (Portugal is second maybe to Japan in that.) Then when I decided to immigrate it was that plus the fact that I could tell Portugal -- and Europe in general. It would have been easier to immigrate to England or France. I had relatives -- had no future. Even back then. I could tell for the most obvious of reasons: even in the eighties, no one wanted to get married or have kids.
I had been applying for grad school and work and had secured an offer. (They'd take care of paperwork.)

Then I fell in love, and things went.... odd. So I can't tell you why I moved.

But I can tell you that Europe felt broken even when I was a kid. They had some awareness they were broken, too, and kept trying to fix themselves by borrowing stuff from America. Which didn't work, because mostly they borrowed irrelevant stuff that has nothing to do with what shaped us. Sometimes counterproductive stuff.

I was of an age and ran in circles where I heard a lot of planning for how great the EU would be, and it will amuse you mostly they thought America was as good as it was because of.... size and standardization from the top down. Hence their obsession with bureaucracy and the curvature of bananas.

Europe felt full of self-loathing. Most countries, each despised itself.

Was it the result of WWI or the invasion and occupation of cultures by the alien philosophy of Marxism?

How about both? I don't think the infection of Marxism would have taken hold without the measure of confusion and self-loathing from WWI. Go read books from between the wars sometime.

Europe in many ways has been casting about for ways to commit suicide.

The internationalists, most of which are European in reality or culture think they've hit on that by quite literally stripping the third world and throwing it into the first.

Part of it is the Marxism belief that wealth can't be created, only stolen. Part is the bizarre gramscian idea that communism is hereditary and inheres to darker skin.

So, you see, both the crazy people on the right and left agree. People who can tan, like me, are literally communists from birth. Even if they aren't. These people agree, btw, because they understand nothing about other cultures, and confuse familial or tribal cultures with Marxism. Oh, they can be as destructive of wealth and productivity, but communist they ain't. Which is why I roll my eyes so hard they fall on the floor and get covered in cat hair. Give me a moment to pop them back in.

Now, does the left think it's destroying America? Most of them? No. Remember, they also think communism is perfect freedom. (But how can you be free if you have to work for a living? is their war cry.) So they think they're turning us into an utopia. They think, depending on how racist and stupid they are (the average is very, btw) that they're destroying capitalism, or that they're destroying "white culture." (Which doesn't exist. Anymore than "African culture" exists. Or "Latin culture" exists. Actually that later is closer to existing, because Rome never fell, in essentials. Only in government. But even then the cultures it absorbed matter. For instance, the Portuguese consider the Irish organized. So, you know? And I have it on good authority the Brazilians think Portuguese are regimented.)

What are they actually doing?

Well, even with the millions streaming over the border, they're NOT in fact creating a majority. At most they're creating a significant minority. Maybe.

Or they would be, if -- as they believe -- everyone who can tan -- them little brown brothers! -- were A CULTURE.

They're not. They ran out of Mexicans willing to immigrate YEARS ago. At this point, they've run out of South Americans. They're importing the world, and I think the terms of recruitment are mostly "The guys go over there, get ALL the benefits, right wrong, and send A LOT OF MONEY HOME." Not "Go to America to life" but "go there for a few years and make a lot of money."

Even the go to America to live groups, like Mexicans in the past, were a mixed bag as to whether they stayed permanently. Most didn't. It was always a high-male proportion, because those are more willing to go into the unknown. And it was always predicated on "send money home." AND "get social security" which was enough for a comfortable retirement back home. (Luxurious even.)

This is why after decades of importing Latin Americans they remain oh, maybe 10% of the population. I know higher has been estimated, but it's hard to tell, and unless you count one-drop -- which idiots in the census do -- it's hard to tell. REALLY hard. Our census for that matter is mostly a fiction for various reasons.

Because everyone who comes in doesn't stay. Everyone who stays doesn't stay in the barrio. People intermarry. A lot. And even in these debased times, people acculturate, even if most of them aren't aware of doing it and only realize it when they go back.

And because it's verbotten to study this, and the left has MYTHS and doesn't believe in cultures as distinct from race, there aren't any serious studies of the proportions of the population that do this.

I know that when Obama first opened the borders -- and took the economy South -- the lack of jobs made people head back out fast. La Grande Salida.

Is the same thing happening? I don't know. And neither do you. I find it weird that where I am there hasn't been a noticeable uptick in Spanish magazines or "foreign subgroup" hanging about. Where I am that should already be visible.

There has been an increase in tent cities, yes. And homeless. Heaven help us. It has us looking around an considering maybe another two three years and another "we don't want to" move. But those idiocies trace directly to a mentally retarded mayor who has decided that if we make it easier for more homeless to come here, it won't result in more homeless. Most of the homeless look like home-grown addicts.

Logically, since they're importing from further afield, imports who feel unhappy would have more trouble going back. Then again, I can tell you, particularly from my observation of exchange students is that the same culture or culture family pile together. People out of their element look for people close to their culture. And if they don't find them (which will be difficult, given the variety imported) they find ways to go back. (Defeating that impulse is self-driven and hard. Unless you're somewhat broken. Hi.)

And since these people are given money, they might very well find ways to go back. Depends on how many of them are being paid to come in/stay with some idea of using them for police/army actions. (Which will fail, because most of them rather fight each other or use the weapons for crime. It's cultural.) I suspect a number are. But again, we have no numbers on any of this, besides "Came in and disappeared."

The only thing I can tell you is it won't go the way it's expected. It won't go that way, because the left has no clue what they're doing.

They think they're moving widgets in with widgets. And the new preferred widgets are stronk and will kill/maim/scare/ take over the old widgets.

Even in Europe I suspect it won't go the way they think. Though in Europe the population is disarmed and in some ways pre-defeated. It's also old as a rule, which makes a difference. And smaller, which means you can -- sort of -- overwhelm them. Sort of. Even there, I predict there's life in the old dog yet, and it might wake them up and bring them to themselves. It is right and natural for the nations of Europe to care about shared heredity, even if they're mostly just a hodge podge. For various reasons, including continuity.

I don't know if they'll win in the end, but they might.

Here? Dear Lord. The left has no idea who or what they are. They're doing this because they could subvert African nations by weaponizing the native population. Being dumb they think it's a matter of darker skin and having a majority who can tan will change us permanently.

Can someone find eyes? They're under a sofa a think. Indy might be playing with them.

Again, illegals remain a minority. And will. Even as they scrape the rest of the world. I doubt most of them want to STAY. They want to GET while the getting is good. And our own culture isn't weak, or ready to give up. The occupying government and the kakistocratic gerontocracy aren't good indications. We? Here, on the ground? Are different. And starting to get pissed.

One thing the left fundamentally misunderstands about America is our attitude to government. We don't think they have a right to "rule" us. We tolerate them, while they're tolerable. We have lives and jobs and kids. And revolution is not worth it. Unless they make themselves intolerable. Which they're trying relly hard.

And the police isn't there to protect us from the criminals. It's there to prevent us going PRIMITIVE on them. Which we will if we don't trust/there is no police.

There is a reason Americans haven't rolled over for socialism the way Europe did. It's there to see if they try. Even now, we're nowhere as bad on that as Europe.

Yes, they're going to try to create barrios and ghettos. With indifferent results is my guess.

There is bitter laughter at the organization of "migrant" (No, not really. Illegal aliens is the proper term.) camps. Because the left has one play book, and when they realize they can't use these people as they think they can, they're going to turn to their murdery standby. And camps... Shakes head. All in one place. easy to eliminate.

They're going to try, probably, to create a more "effective" antifa, one that isn't afraid of the suburbs. One that doesn't need to be bused from city to city.

My guess is outside the big cities, the results will be astounding. Not the way they expect.

If it weren't for their myths about "white culture" and how peaceful we are, they'd see it coming, but they won't.

And that's the ones that don't kill each other.

Look, it's going to be unpleasant as hell, and I'm looking at it in horror, but the truth is that what's left in ten years is a SLIGHT increase in our underclass. At most. And I'm not sure about that. We're not an easy environment to survive in, even while being law abiding.

Our homeless, our underclass, as is, are a matter of us being able to afford them.

The other things the left is doing guarantees that time is coming to an end. Even without any great convulsions, we're headed to a tight time. Yes, it could devolve into bands of roving bandits. Maybe. But the population his heavily armed and has the home ground advantage. What's more important, most of these criminals are used to a disarmed, cowed populace. One that will be pinched and very upset.

I hope there's no big convulsion, because in one of those people like me and the kids will be mistaken for the enemy.

But even without it, things will get spicy. And very bad for them.

What we're going to need, and not far off, is actual police services, not the Stasi, but people who will actually focus on organized crime. And it will be a problem.

Because what remains from this is organized crime. We've never got rid of the mob, there's now the Russian mob, adding the Cartels doesn't help.

THAT's the main cause of my current worry and depression.

The rest will shake out. And in America I'm sure we win. In Europe, who knows? Depends on how much they really want to die. You can't permanently save suicides.

Meanwhile, you -- you out there -- prepare some more. I need to take my own medicine and go to the range. It's time and.... organization, and yes, money, to an extent.

Make sure you have a defensible position against higher crime with more third world tactics. Stay off drugs. Regardless of what you think of them, they empower the cartels. Don't bring illegals home, even young or cute ones. Stay off the highly corruptible/corrupted charities that cater to them.

If you're young enough and can, get married. Have kids. The future belongs to those who show up. And teach your kids, of whatever level of tan, to be stubborn, independent Americans.

Because once this thoroughly disgusting period is past, and Marxism is buried in the midden of history, America is headed for the stars. Taking humanity with us. And trailing glory all the way.

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